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katsklaw
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| darkwarrior wrote: | | It seems IRC is becoming more of a developer playground anymore, now with more development projects utilizing IRC channels for publicity, and all of the mIRC scripts being made, makes it seem to be more of a developer and mIRC scripting playground. Also not to forget Warez and Bot nets as well, so more like a P2P, botnet/script kiddie, and developer playground. |
that's funny you should say that. I can agree about the playground/support part. IRC is indeed good for both. However, I find that most mIRC scripters have faded away. At least most of the inovative ones. Pai, blue-elf, NTd, Kall, gr33ny .. etc .. they all seem to have got lives and moved on. Yeah some of the older scripts are still around and a few are still updated but I've personally found fewer mirc script sites now than 10 years ago. Even mircscripts.org has only added 5 scripts in the last year.
I just have a love for only the best quality script and ignore all the other ones. Although I will admit that there is only so much you can do with the mIRC script engine and since it's not been majorly updated in years, everything has already been done. Not to mention mIRC is very slow at fixing some oddities, which is partly why at least one of the above mentioned late great ones quit scripting 
As far as warez/P2P playground, I'll have to disagree. Yes, a lot still exists .. but a much larger part of that community has moved to other mediums. |
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darkwarrior
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| Posted: Oct 30, 2008 5:16pm Post subject: |
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I am a casual scripter myself, with the ability to script some basic things, nothing too advanced, for example, fully laid out dialogs, and the DLL files being used and such. I have many great ideas on some new and unique scripts that could potentially turn out quite well and be widely used, but I just don't know how to script them, nor can I find an advanced enough scripter that would be interested in volunteering to do it. So I must agree with you that it does seem that many of the good scripters have went silent.
As for Warez/P2P, I somewhat agree, but disagree with you. It seems that every IRC network except a rare few that I visit has at least 1 Warez channel, which is their top channel of course. |
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katsklaw
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| Posted: Oct 31, 2008 6:03am Post subject: |
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| darkwarrior wrote: |
As for Warez/P2P, I somewhat agree, but disagree with you. It seems that every IRC network except a rare few that I visit has at least 1 Warez channel, which is their top channel of course. |
DALnet, which is the topic of this thread has no warez channels ;P At least not in way other networks do such as undernet. DALnet forbid warez channels years ago and is rather successful at closing them when they find them. The hard part is finding them since they are so easy to hide. DALnet went from 140k user peak to it's current size of roughly 30k-40k in the process. The DALNet warez channels spread to all the other nets and it seems that new irc admins think that warez iz a goood way to grow their net, so they invite warez chanops to their network. That's why warez seems to be "spreading". It's just like the number of IRC networks. SIRC adds new networks every day. However, the total number of users on IRC is dropping. users that can't wait to get an O:Line as well as disgruntled opers branch off and create a network. Making it so the number of total nets goes up while the average number of users per net drops. That is why if you have 50 userson your network, you have more than 90% of the other networks. IRC in general according to SIRC has lost 500k users in the last few years. Many of them were warez users.
As far as scripting goes .. I've been scripting since 1996 and mainly stick to my own modular script but on occasion check out what's available. I'm one of the minimalists when it comes to scripts. My modular script is multi-channel, multi-net capable and does what most ordinary scripts do, but at a fraction of the size because I believe in portable code. My script is also themed in a manner that with the proper UTF8 support my script can also be multi-lingual. If I had the interest I'd finish the theme engine (sorry, but MTS sucks) as well as what I refer to as a template engine.
In the terminology of my script, the theme engine regulates how the script makes mirc look to you. The template engine regulates how mIRC looks to everyone else in regards to output theming. Templates are good for bots and channels that like lots of colors. But the theme and template engine are modular so if you don't want it .. don't use it  so far my entire script has basic modules that do everything I do on a regulat basis. Away script, blacklist, mp3 player/server (although I don't serve anymore) and not to mention the IRCop interface All for the whopping size of 100k zipped. It doesn't have any fancy mdx dialogs, just simple add-on and modul loaders, dialog Fkey manager and a few others.
Anyway, back to talking about DALnet. |
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